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Ryan213  

$4 for a download using paypal?? Sounds good to me. Hopefully this will become a reality.

AlienGoods  

I’m not even a fan, but I would buy it just to prove a point to the other musicians out there. They can market their own material, and they don’t have to keep signing with these BS labels that try to DRM a CD!

The first time I bought a CD that I couldn’t rip to MP3 was the last time I bought a CD.

I agree. Points to Trent.

HunterTV  

I’m psyched to see what Trent does once the contract is up. I’m a fan, so I’m biased, but to tell you the truth, if he charged for a download and it was $12 instead of $4 and I knew it was all (or mostly, minus costs, etc.) going to him, I’d pay it gladly. Hell I’d do that for all the bands I like.

When I know that maybe 5% (ballparking here) or less goes to an artist when I buy a $18 CD or download or whatever, it’s pretty disconcerting. I’m buying music because an ARTIST made it, not so some corporate ***** who didn’t do ***** to make the album sound the way it does can buy a new car. ***** that. I’ll pay so Trent can get some hot ride, but not some anonymous whitecollar prick.

Jugalator  

The music industry is too funny.. In pretty much any other I can think of, they try to come up with good deals to make you stick as a customer, for dedicating yourself to a service, and so on. But with the music industry, they see it as a challenge to rack up the prices as high they can…

It’s like if a restaurant owner would see you come as a common guest and instead of cutting your cost a little once in a while because you become a good and frequent customer, he starts thinking of how much more he can charge you compared to his other visitors. Screwed up logic for sure… And they keep getting away with it.

Trevor Campbell  

“I’ve have one record left that I owe a major label, then I will never be seen in a situation like this again. If I could do what I want right now, I would put out my next album, you could download it from my site at as high a bit-rate as you want, pay $4 through PayPal. Come see the show and buy a T-shirt if you like it. I would put out a nicely packaged merchandise piece, if you want to own a physical thing. And it would come out the day that it’s done in the studio, not this “Let’s wait three months” bulls—.”

This is exactly what I’m saying. Theres hardly any need for the labels anymore. Artists are fully capable of distributing the music themselves at virtually no cost. Trent is ahead of the times but only because “the times” are being kept behind by the music industry.

Ron H  

Punk, Hip Hop, hardcore and other genre’s have been doing this for ever, producing, printing, and releasing your own material.

But I really think with the internet and more means becoming available for the common person to do this on there own I see no reason why a dedicated artist could not do it on there own or under a small label and match or even surpass anything a large record label would do.

Here’s to hoping reznor follows through and his claim.

Ram226  

Another killer post Ty!

This is amazing. I’m not even a NIN fan and I think its amazing. I think its about time some major artist/band does exactly whats he is talking about; say heck with the labels, put out an album soley over the web for a decent price, and teach the industry big wigs a lesson.

This article says it all. I can’t believe how the labels
want to punish the loyal fans by making them pay more for a particular artist’s music based on his/her popularity. Are they Crazy? People will buy a CD if the price is right, But don’t gouge them just becuase it’s someone who is more popular than other artist’s. I have favorite artist’s but there is a limit to what I’d pay for their CD’s. $35.00 seems like an awful lot of money for any CD, even a double Boxed Special Edition set! I am not a NIN Fan per say, But Trent Reznor just may have earned himself a new fan based on his honesty and integrity as an artist. I can’t believe this sort of thing is even legal! It’s like the gas Stations who were Gouging people at the Pump Right after 9/11 tregedy happened. The government stepped in and started going after the Station Managers for price Gouging. This seems alot like Price Gouging to me!

John O  

All I can say is that this is just the tip of the iceberg. Like Trent said, the labels have absolutely no idea what they are doing these days and are trying to rely on what worked in the past, instead of trying to embrace the future.

I have to say I’m not at all surprised (unfortunately as it may be) to hear this unjustifiable behaviour on behalf of major labels.
My better days are before me for sure, and I can witness to how an artist can get f…kd very bad.
No I haven’t made millions yet,( notice I’ve said yet) because I was always ripped very bad at the very beginning of my releases by the labels while I was working under a different artist name so they’ve only made a few thousand, more than likely a few hundred thousand with all their (back door marketing tricks), before everything fell apart and they’ve eventually lost the singles them selves due to their own stupidity.
I’ve gotten tired of this crap so I’ve changed my name to work independently and I’ve started my own small label as Ty as said.
Due to the lack of money my CD production could have turned out much better but I was desperate to have something physical in my hands to show people some of my undiscovered and ignored talents.
I’m in the process of raising capital for launching a radio PR + TV PR campaign soon to kick start my career even at this stage in my life. ( stage meaning, ” I’m not 28 any more, but it’s never to late to shake hands and move in with you’re own destiny.
NIN is a very cool band and it pleases me to see such artist’s icons step forward and say to the Pimpin Record Industry Fk..U we will show you that the there is truth to the shortest distance between two points for success is: the artist and their public!

NIKKI SWAN
P.O.F.

kabob  

great article! we were never going to sign with a record label anyway, but this just confirms our reasons why! Also thanks to Trent for the great music! LOVE Year Zero! Also, Please people…quit ripping off these talented artists!

Nice to see big artist, doing what should of been done at the break of the internet and mp3’s. like many industries the record companies only exist becouse of the need to sustain jobs.
suppose you could call them parasites feeding off the talented.

This is the exact reason that we have kept Western Civ completely unaffiliated! We released their last album (which was produced by Mitch Easter who also produced REM, Pavement and Dinosaur Jr.) under the name “nomorefakelabels.com” which is sort of our own little rebellion!

Thanks Trent, for not sugar coating what musicians have to deal with these days! The up and coming artists all over the world need to know what they are in for!

KEEP INDIE ALIVE!!! BUY INDIE MUSIC!! (even if it’s not ours!;)
But, if you feel so inclined, you can get Western Civ’s music here:
http://www.cdbaby.com/westernciv3
http://www.itunes.com

I love to read all this kind of interviews and articles. It helps me to stay focused and well informed about the music bussiness.
I also would like to invite you to visit my web page and listen to my music.
Thanks and greeting from Colombia!

lyneah  

omg i woudent guess thats why you cheack before you hire some one

KwaMega  

I’m feeling everything this article had to offer poiwer to the people and to a new structure of the music industry!!!!

jewelry  

This is the second entry I read tonight. And I am on my third. Got to think which one is next. Thank you.

Brown  

Are you a professional journalist? You write very well.

Thanks.what a lengthy and in depth article but full of useful information

Crasty  

Thank you! You often write very interesting articles. You improved my mood.

Larry  

Very interesting, I have heard this kind of information before. I think that it is the rock bottem truth and has been the story for many years. Thanks to the internet
the major lables which held a monopoly on the music industry
for years are now getting pushed out, The new problem now is the stealing that is going on. Now that we can be in contreol I think that we need to resist the urge to increase the price to offset the loss of what gettes stolen, because that will only encurage more people to steal.

Thanks to Trent for giving us all some things to think about and beware of. Glenn at GaSongWriters.com

abreanna  

oh way to go trent!! Good for him to take matters into his own hands. You cant let money suckers hide your true talent and true being. Let your fans know your in this for the music and for them,and NOT for the money like these record labels these days.

sharond  

Thank you Ty for this wonderful article! I truly feel for Trent. I have heard so many horror stories like this about record labels, so have lost any desire of going that route long ago.

I have used all the indie methods from the beginning including producing my own cds, covers and all. Have also had a manufacturer replicate, but have so many cds out now, it’s too expensive to replicate 1000 of each (14 cds).

Downloads are a great way to go on your website and yes using paypal. They have a tool that took forever to locate called micropayments for downloads ($2 download costs you 15 cents). Here is the link: https://micropayments.paypal-labs.com/
Now you can sell your own downloads and keep most all of the money. My site has been doing great since adding the downloads, selling individual songs and whole albums. You save shipping costs and no physical product to produce!

Why give the labels all the money when you do all the work!

Well Drainage X has a been a band for 7 years, always been independant this is very hard to do even with 92% of bands going independant right now. The way the record labels have the majority of the market lock down nearly impossible to penitrate they have all the major booking agents, management, venue’s and all the distrubution companies. That constantly give you the run around they put the responsibity off on each other depending on who your dealing with @ that time. Now the internet has helped with this alot in the past years but with-out lots of money for marketing or a room full of full time bloggers you get no where very fast, then you have all the stealing going on. Drainage X has done 5 national tours with very large acts spent lots lots lots of money on tours, marketing, and merchandising but to compare to millions of dollers a major label spends how can you compare. please tell me how ? when you spend money on internet marketing but the stealling of digital down loads you don’t even make your money back. A business can’t take a loss all the time! till next time Evil Sins from Drainage X check us out on http://www.myspace.com/drainagex p.s. our nwe album End of the world is coming next week look for it and buy digital downloads its the best christian heavy metal album ever………….

Wendy  

This is the perfect story and the real deal of why old school record label exec’s should be taken completely out of the picture and out of everybody’s pocket book. Artist are perfectly capable of distributing their own music at fair pricing to the public, but the record labels are so focused on how to continually line everybody else’s pockets while ripping off the artist and their fans. Just need to get rid of all the old dinasaurs at the record labels, go with direct marketing, and figure out how to stop Peir to peir sharing. So the artist can properly market their music at a fair price to their fans, with a decent profit to the artist and not line the pockets of every greedy suit and figure head.

Charlie Frederick  

A great article!
Having been involved in music for many many years and knowing how record companies have ripped off many artists over the years, I welcome the day that artists take full control over their products. In this day of the internet, this can and will be done. I would urge any and all artists to do some research and look at the many ways that their music can be marketed without the big record companies being involved. Developing your own label is easy and now marketing your product is simple. Develop your strategy and set goals and objectives and the rest will come. The bottom line is…if people like what they hear…they will buy it! Now that we have ways to market the product, all we have to do is get it out there…and keep plugging.

This is interesting and what makes this unique is that we, the individual artist / musician can now move on to bigger and better challenges.

With this info at hand, we can stay in control and focused on what we really need to do and that is to… Take Charge and Do It Yourself a little help from real friends who actually want to help you succeed by helping you run your own label.

This would be the actual scope of it all and has given me some insight to my own label.

RADARLOVE

Yunique  

It’s really worrying to see how the majors manipulate the system for their own gain. I have read this post before and it really gives you a deepa insight that this is the time for the indie. It’s like cooking the food and setting up the dinner table, but you only get the leftovers. NO THANK YOU! I had an opportunity a few years back to sign with a major and I’m glad i didn’t. Thank you Ty and everyone else that keeps us informed and educating us to watch out and to DIY.

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